HDxLiberation: A Human Design Podcast

Episode 9: What's So Special About 2027?

• Courtney Napier, Andrea Ward Berg • Season 1 • Episode 9

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Episode Summary:

In this episode, Andrea and Courtney discuss the significance of the year 2027 in Human Design. They explore the concept of global cycles and the transition from the Cross of Planning to the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. They debunk the apocalyptic narratives surrounding 2027 and emphasize the gradual nature of change. The hosts highlight the shift towards individualism and the importance of embracing unique expression. They discuss the impact of individual energy on collective thriving and the need for self-reflection and feedback mechanisms. Overall, the episode offers a hopeful perspective on the future and the potential for personal and societal transformation.

Key Takeaways:

  • The year 2027 marks the transition from the Cross of Planning to the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix in Human Design.
  • The global cycles in Human Design last approximately 425 years and are based on the Earth's axis and its relationship to the cosmos.
  • The Cross of Planning has been characterized by a tit-for-tat energy, while the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix emphasizes individual expression and charisma.
  • The shift towards individualism does not mean a disregard for collective thriving, but rather a recognition of the importance of unique self-expression in contributing to the whole.
  • The transition to the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix offers an opportunity for personal and societal growth, as individuals embrace their true selves and create space for others to do the same.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Individual energy is all about empowerment. It is really about discovering and embracing that which makes you uniquely you." - Andrea Ward Berg
  • "We have an opportunity to see that there is something in it for us, but there's also something in it for the planet, there's something in it for the bigger 'we'." - Andrea Ward Berg
  • "We can come to a place where we start reintegrating those parts of ourselves that had to be cut away in order to fit into society's mold." - Courtney Napier
  • "We can be a positive impact not only on each other but on this planet. We have historical evidence of our capacity to be that." - Courtney Napier

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About the Hosts:

  • Andrea Ward Berg: Andrea is a human design expert and co-host of the Human Design and Liberation podcast. She has a deep understanding of human design and its intersection with liberation theology. Andrea is passionate about helping individuals navigate personal and societal changes using human design as a tool.
  • Courtney Napier: Courtney is a co-host of the Human Design and Liberation podcast. She brings her expertise in theology and social justice to the discussions, exploring how human design can be a catalyst for personal and collectiv

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Andrea Ward Berg:

Hi, I'm Andrea.

Courtney Napier:

Hey y'all, this is Courtney and welcome to the Human Design and Liberation podcast.

Andrea Ward Berg:

This is a space where we explore how human design and liberation theology intersect with the past, present, and future.

Courtney Napier:

With the intent of sharing the beauty and pain of the human experience to encourage you in your liberation journey.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Hello.

Courtney Napier:

Hey, we're back. We're back. I missed you. I missed, I missed this.

Andrea Ward Berg:

For those of you listening, I was very, very sick last week, so we had to take a little hiatus,

Courtney Napier:

And then I pulled my back.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. Then you pulled your back out.

Courtney Napier:

So yeah, we, we were both

Andrea Ward Berg:

eclipsing,

Courtney Napier:

both, um, eclipsing!

Andrea Ward Berg:

We're eclipsing. We're still eclipsing.

Courtney Napier:

Exactly. We are definitely still eclipsing, but we're so happy to be, um, recording and, and putting together a new episode for you guys.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So today we're going to talk about 2027.

Courtney Napier:

Yes. So I would love for you to kind of, if you, if you're into it, set us up with kind of like why this now.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. So, um, for anybody listening who is like WTF

Courtney Napier:

2027. Exactly. That part, that part. Um, so wait, what?

Andrea Ward Berg:

Wait, what? Um, so 2027 is a number, a year that was brought up by the entity that transferred this knowledge to RAW, um, in the 80s. Um, so 2027 is a number, a year that was brought up by the entity that transferred this knowledge to RAW, um, in the 80s. Okay. So, um, this was a long time ago. Um, and it's interesting because as we've gotten closer to 2027, human design has grown, right? Like the awareness of human design has grown, um, because one of the things that the voice talked about was how human design is a tool to help us navigate this process. These changes that are coming. Um, and so part of the reason why I wanted to do this episode is because number one, I don't want it to be something that people are afraid of. Um, it is something that has been talked about in human design since human design has existed. So since the eighties, 30 some years, um, and it refers to what Rob would call the global cycles. So, um, there is. It's a concept. It's a pretty ancient concept from, um, Vedic times called the precession of equinoxes. And that is really like the, let's say, the source material that come, that's where that comes from. Right? Right. Right. Pretty much everything in source material you can track back to either the Kabbalah or, you know, Um, you know, um, beta astrology, astrology chain, right. Um, it's just human design kind of brings it together in a new way. And so, um, this concept, um, has to do with the earth and it's access and the way that that axis, um, shapes the influence. That we are receiving from the cosmos.

Courtney Napier:

Right. So it's kind of like, you know, how like the outer planets have like a generational influence. This is like even larger.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Exactly.

Courtney Napier:

And even larger, like almost like eras.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yes. If you want it. Yeah. Almost like eras. Yeah, exactly. So, um, these global cycles last approximately 425 years. And, um, it's based on, again, these fixed reference points. These, you know, stars and things that are further out in the cosmos and the way that the Earth's axis is in relationship to those. Um, and so we are ending one of those global cycles in 2027.

Courtney Napier:

Yes. The Cross of Planning.

Andrea Ward Berg:

The Cross of Planning. That's the cross that we've been in for the last 420 some years. Um, and. So when we move into the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix, which is the next cross that we're moving into, um, that's going to happen in February of 2027. So, um, there, there, there's like a confluence of factors that are happening right now. Um, if you look to astrologers, Um, you know, there, there was the big, um, conjunction. I think it was like Saturn, Pluto conjunction in 2020. Um, we've got a Uranus, Jupiter conjunction happening this year. Like these outer planets do these like pretty big activities that, um, spark change. And so if we think of this axis that we're on and the shift that it is making, it is also going to spark change, but it is more of like, um, an undercurrent frequency that we're in versus there being like a one specific event.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Which I think is a really important part. Um, in this conversation, because I think. One thing about American culture, it being rooted in, in Christian Protestantism and evangelical, uh, culture, really. Yeah. Um, This is we're dealing with this kind of an essence of prophecy of sorts. 2027, this idea, um, it is a, is a prophecy that's fixed in a pattern. Um, but nonetheless, it's this idea of like projecting into the future. This is what is coming. And the idea of prophecy in the United States is often heavily laden with ideas of violence and, Warfare and struggle and yes, apocalyptic Armageddon, all that stuff. And so very, um, also very specific in very specific events happening in the world. Very specific figures rising and falling, that kind of thing. And we're just encouraging you to like, you know, lay all that down with this conversation. It's not, it's not real. Yes, exactly. In general, and it's certainly not connected with this, um, this idea, this, um, conversation around the shift from, uh, the Cross of Planning into the cross of sleeping Phoenix. So just to kind of add that to that,

Andrea Ward Berg:

especially, especially for those that have been around the human design community for a while and are have like heard it referenced in certain ways, like, Oh, well, that's not going to work after 2027, or, you know, you'll, people will make statements like that. And I think it has led to this, like you said, apocalyptic, I think. idea of what, um, what is going to transpire. And I, I do think that there's going to be a lot of change, but, and also I think we're already feeling that change. I mean, just by nature of the procession of equinoxes, like we're already feeling that change. It's just going to fully transition at that moment. But it's already started the transition like right, you know what I mean, like, um, so one of the aspects that I, I find is really interesting is when the transition happens, um, unlike most of our. Um, most of our transits, typically transits start in the first line of something and move to the sixth line and then they move to the next gate. So, like, for example, um, whatever the sun is in today, um, it's, you know, let's say in the second line. I don't track the transits daily, but let's just say it's in the second line. Tomorrow it'll be in the third line. And then the next day. Okay. The fourth line, right? With the global cycle, it actually moves in the opposite direction. And so, um, part of why I know we've already been feeling this change is because we've actually been in the first line of the Cross of Planning for the last 57 years, right? Um, really since the Sixties we've been in the first line. Of the, you know, um, The Cross of Planning and so that kind of disruption that volatility that we've been feeling is a lead in to get us ready for the shift in frequency that's coming. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like we're just, you know, getting out of the hot tub and going to jump into an ice bath. Like the temperature is going to change gradually, right? So Right. And that's how life works. That's how, you know, exactly always worked. Um, even when we like study some of these major events, like, um, ice age or, um, Noah's ark or things like that. I mean, the reality behind what people was live, what people were living is much more. gradual and, um, you cannot mark it day to day. Yeah. Then what you can mark looking back.

Courtney Napier:

Right. Totally. And even, yeah, exactly. I think I'm thinking of like the civil rights movement, for instance, and everybody really fixates on the sixties, but that work was happening, you know, before the civil war, you know, if you think of suffrage, you think of the abolition movement, you know, all these things. And so it is, again, it's a, it's very much our society to, to fixate on. Particular figures, individuals and particular crises, I think we fixate on that. And then we kind of, we, we tell time in that way. And then we teach time in that way, teach our history and so forth. And so, um, it, it manipulates the arc. I think. And so I think it is, yeah, like it's really important to remember that, that there's always these currents and these things happening, uh, underneath what is seen on the news or, you know, the ticker, whatever. And, um, to, to trust that, you know, there's like an essence of like trust that we are always in this forward movement, you know, we're always in this, in this progression, procession.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. Um, I love that you bring up the civil rights movement because there, there's another phenomenon that, um, actually Dr. Brittany Cooper talked about a lot during, um, COVID, but I think it's relevant in this reference as well around, um, the pendulum. And, and our norms, our societal norms, and, you know, it's really up to us to push the pendulum in the way of humanizing, rehumanizing, but recognizing that it's going to swing. Yeah. We're going to get a little bit of progress and then it's going to swing and then we're going to get a little bit of progress and then it's going to swing again. Right. And so, you know, for example, When the civil war was over and emancipation happened and we saw a big swing, a big progressive swing, right? Like that was when we had representatives that were previously enslaved, right? That was when we had like a lot of progress, um, you know, city and state on the city and state level as well as national level. And then we had the Jim Crow laws come and swing us backwards. Right? And so Um, even what we're dealing with in some ways today, I think is a bit of backlash for us. Oh yeah. That we have gained in the last 10 years.

Courtney Napier:

Absolutely. Yeah, I fully, fully agree. We went from, you know, in the late 1800s, the most Black representation we've ever, like, we've literally ever had. We've never had that height of Black and brown representation before, since The late 1800s. And, um, and yet, like you said, we can see the pendulum moving forward. And I want to add not just one type of representation. Now we have LGBTQIA+ representation. We have women, we have, um, Indigenous representation. So that's another thing to think about too, is that, you know, the regression never brings us back all the way to where we were and the progression brings more and more of us with it. Does that make sense? Like the, you know, we're, we're rehumanizing everyone, not just, you know, more and more people get picked up as the, as the broom. pushes forward, you know, and so again, it's, it's, it's hopeful. Like we have a lot of good things to look forward to as we are all doing our part in making it happen.

Andrea Ward Berg:

I agree. I agree. And this is where 2027 gets interesting. Yes. Because Even just in this timeframe that we're talking about, right. It has been governed by this energy of the Cross of Planning and the dominant energy in that process of planning is the 3740, which is a channel that is really about, um, hit for tap, give and take like, Is this deal sweet enough? Are you giving me enough for me to agree to this? Yeah. So you can see kind of how that has been one of the pillars in keeping our, you know, post colonial structures. Yeah. Yeah. Supremacy delusional structures in place. All those systems. Yep. Is that I'm getting enough to survive and so I'm not going to fight against it, right? So, as we move in past 2027, that background frequency of tit for tat is no longer there. Right, right. And what replaces it is It's a frequency from the integration channel, which is like hyper individual, which is all about expression. Yeah. It's all about unique expression, um, and charisma. And so it's just really exciting to think that that is going to have so much more. airtime, right?

Courtney Napier:

Yeah, ultimately, for sure. I think, um, what is interesting to me as I was looking into this topic and thinking about it, kind of meditating on it is this idea of individualism and individuality. And, um, we love words. We love talking about words and thinking about the meaning of words and not just the definition, but like the connotation, like in our society, what do these words evoke? And I think, um, part of the fear or part of the. I would say the misunderstanding about this, the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix, um, it having an individual frequency is that we think of individualism. And so we think of, um, like a survival of the fittest, every man for themselves type of idea, the rugged individualism. That's kind of a part of our, um, American ethos, uh, supremacist delusion. Um, but, correct. One way that I've been thinking about this more and more, and I'm convinced of it more and more is that when I'm, when I'm imagining individualism, what I'm imagining is, um, someone realizing that kind of like Gen Z, I feel like Gen Z is like a really interesting group of people to think about when, when thinking about individualism, because they are very much, uh, committed to their self expression. They're committed to understanding all of their identities and letting all of them breathe and live on a daily basis. And they also understand that The way that they live their lives, um, has an impact on those around them. It's kind of sets off a chain of events. It's like they're, they understand this, this idea of reciprocity, this, this idea of cause and effect that if you put out negativity in the world, it's going to come back. And so instead they're looking out for themselves by. Standing up for other people's rights. They're looking out for themselves by taking up the call of, of, of, you know, being concerned about the planet, um, the way that they handle their education. They're thinking about, well, I, you know, my friend wants to know about. Their culture. I want to know about their culture. We live in the same community. Like, I want to know what's going on. I don't want to be misinformed. I don't want to not know what I need to know to make it in this world. And so there's a sense of, which I think was, um, which is not the tradition that we come from in the recent past, which is anything different, It needs to be suppressed because it's going to be a threat to our survival, which is that tribal frequency. The individualistic frequency is, um, yeah, as many of us are thriving, the better economy we have, the air is cleaner, the water is potable, this is kind of the way that they're imagining the world. And so it's not individualistic in a sense of, um, Like libertarian like they don't care about what's happening across the street or with their neighbor.

Andrea Ward Berg:

It's not individualistic in denying our need of each other.

Courtney Napier:

Yes, yes, our, our, our, um, Interdependence as a, as a species and as a planet, you know what I mean? Like they, they have that. And that I think is a really great, um, illustration of, uh, what, what real individualism, what real differentiation is.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. I mean, I think that's what I go back to is. The, the gifts of the energy type. And so within the 64 gates of human design, um, there's three types of energy. There's individual, which everything starts. With individual energy, there's what's called tribal or communal and my training, it was communal, um, energy, and then there is collective energy. And so, um, if we, if we can remind ourselves of what that individual energy is, then it feels a lot more empowering because individual energy is all about empowerment. It is really about, um, discovering. And embracing that which makes you uniquely you and people who carry that individual energy signature like I have the 10 57. It's very much a part of my being this is wanting everybody to fully express themselves. The way they are right, wanting them to have the capacity and, um, the oxygen and the nutrients that are needed for them to be fully expressed. And so, you know, it takes individual energy for us to learn what we're capable of. Yeah. So for example, let's say you have a field of tulips that were planted and they're all red. You might have one white tulip. that mutated and that white tulip made it possible for there to be white tulips going forward, because then that tulip was harvested and right. And so, um, it is not individual energy is not a threat to the collective. It is actually an expansion for the collection. However, it does require both the tribe and the collective to make space. For right energy, right? It does require some self reflection. It does require some, um, a feedback mechanism by which way that individual energy can say, Hey, this is no longer working. We have grown out of this. Right. Right. So, you know, I'm, I'm aware of this all the time because I'm listening to, you know, all of these, you know, children's songs and, um, reading books with my kids and, um, like there's a song that they've been playing at school a lot. Um, that says, um, you know, buy, buy to your daddy, buy to your mommy. And I happen to know several kids in my son's class have two moms. And so I am like, Hey, this is not working anymore. Like we need to not write songs anymore. Um, And maybe, you know, 20 years ago, I, I do believe that situation existed, but there wasn't the empowerment to say something about it that there is. And so that is really what we're going to feel in 2027 is that there is this support from the background frequency to say the things that have been needing to be said a while.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah,

Andrea Ward Berg:

to make space for that individual expression.

Courtney Napier:

And I think that's, that's just another example of how this is not going to be something that's going to smack us all up the side of the head in February of 2027. Like we are seeing this happen. I mean, if you're saying like, as you, as you, You know, we're able to show us we've been in this first line frequency of the process planning for the last 60, 70 years. And we have seen just the incredible arc of one group after another, after another, after another speaking out and it compounding, right? And so, you know, you had Black and brown folks stepping out for, for equal opportunity and um, their voting rights. And that laid the groundwork for. You know, second wave feminism, which laid the groundwork for the LGBTQ rights movement, which laid the groundwork for, you know, trans visibility, which laid the groundwork, you know, and it's, and we see the growth when we see the, the, the space and those former groups empowered. Right. They joined these other groups. I mean, I don't think people understand that like Frederick Douglass, right. Was an abolitionist, but he was also a suffragist. He was. Yep. That's something that we don't talk about. We don't talk about how there's overlap always.

Andrea Ward Berg:

I go back to like these energies that we're talking about. Like this is such a perfect example of when that newness comes in, right? Like when, um, I'm trying to remember the name. Of, um, the trans women who really, you know, pride day,

Courtney Napier:

Marsha Johnson,

Andrea Ward Berg:

Marsha Johnson, and just like recognizing all the intersectionality of Marsha's identity, right? And then recognizing that the work that they did has laid the foundation for the next wave of feminism that was meant to come. Yes. It's like you're not having all of these in isolation. And so, right. Marsha's individuality then informed the tribe, right? Yes. We need to make space for this within the tribe. Now, not every tribe was willing to make space for it. Of course. Yes. But, you know, there, there was space made and, and that, and that Experience that, um, life force, those identities have been held within the tribes that were able to make space for them. And those tribes are then shifting the collective. Right. And so a lot of times we look at, Oh, well, you know, like the laws, we look at the laws, like, Oh, you know, when did the laws shift? And it's like, okay, the laws aren't going to shift until the community shifts.

Courtney Napier:

Right. Right.

Andrea Ward Berg:

And so if we really want the laws to shift, then we have to shift the community first. We have to do our part to make it safe for the things that we know are correct, regardless of what the laws say.

Courtney Napier:

Right, exactly. And I do want to make the point, and I think we're arriving to this anyway, it feels like we're arriving to this idea that there are going to be individuals introducing ideas. And expressing themselves in ways that are not for the benefit. Of the collective and there are going to be groups of people who are going to align with those individuals. I think about, you know, the, the evangelical movement from the silent majority to the tea party to, you know what I mean? Like that's been also, it happened Um, it coincided, you know, with, um, Brown v. Board of Education in 1955 with the desegregation of public schools was the tipping point for what we now see as the new right, you know, this very, um, far right evangelical Christian nationalist movement began back then, um, in earnest, it being not just a religious movement, but a political movement. And so it, again, this is nothing to fear because it's not new because we've seen the progress and, you know, it's, we are also seeing that there, Like you said, the pendulum, it swings one way and it's going to swing in other direction. There are individuals who are not for our collective thriving. Yeah. That's where they position themselves.

Andrea Ward Berg:

The truth is, is those individuals are not thriving. Right. I mean, exactly. I talk about this all the time. Right. I think the thing to remember is that, yeah, they're not for the collective thriving, but they're also not thriving themselves. Like when you look at the, the suicide rate, like white men have a higher suicide rate than every other demographic combined. Yeah. When you look at, um, antidepressants and white women and antidepressants and anti anxiety medication, right? When you, there's so many different indicators that you can look at that show the people who are upholding these harmful systems are harming themselves in the process right? And they're having to cope with the fact that they're harming themselves. And so one of the benefits of the tit for tat being gone. It's that this veil of what am I getting, right? The safety that I thought I was getting this whole time is, is fully being lifted.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. That's facts. And that, yes.

Andrea Ward Berg:

And that really could go either way. Right? Like I'm not saying it's going to be, you know, all rainbows and sunshine, because I think there's definitely going to be some, some big reckonings happening, but yeah, work that we have done to lay the groundwork and to organize around these legacies of care that so many Black community organizers have put together for us, it allows us to really lean into a very solid foundation for expression, a foundation for being our unique selves. Yeah, I think it is important to make that differentiation between, um, this like hyper individualism and individual energy right within the chart.

Courtney Napier:

Yes. Um, yes, totally. I mean, it's so funny I was talking to my, uh, My husband about this a couple of nights ago, and I am from, you know, I am, I was a very churchy girl. And so sometimes I think in like object lessons, anybody who that hopefully that doesn't trigger anyone saying object lessons, but this idea of, you know, just like cute, tangible ways of communicating, you know, intangible realities and truths. And I had this kind of vision of, um, kind of how we've all been living under this, this Tribal energy and this idea of, you know, we are here as human beings. We are pack animals. We are, we exist for a collective thriving, right? That's how we thrive is collectively. And, but we've also had this tribal Um, kind of societal lessons on the type of person you have to be in order to contribute to collective thriving. And that has been such a, um, small, um, exclusionary concept. I mean, the things that fit inside of that are respectability politics. The things that fit inside of that are like chastity and modesty and, you know, um, the masculine and feminine binary and, and fitting inside of these gender roles and all of these ideas on like what the right type of person is in order to be, um, someone who can contribute to society meant that there were a lot of ableism is another one. There are a lot of people, all of us, one would say, um, that are walking around as just kind of bits of a self, you know, parts of a self. Um, and we have been told that we are responsible for upholding, um, and, and contributing to the collective thriving of community as this brittle, um, Very fragile version of the self because it's not whole I think of it as kind of like just one kind of twig or something trying to hold up an entire like table of food, you know, and I feel like what we're moving into this this new individual frequency where self expression and innovation. Um, self knowledge, uh, self reflection is being supported, is that we can come to a place where we start reintegrating, um, those parts of ourselves that had to be kind of cut away in order to fit into society's mold and idea of what a, um, of what a contributing citizen was, um, And then we can be all those things and it creates this robust structure underneath this, this feast table, um, that we can kind of stand in our strength. We can bring all the gifts and things that were tossed aside along with those parts of us that weren't acceptable. Um, And we can really start seeing and, and imagining, but experiencing, I think more than anything, this new way of, of offering our full selves to each other without fear or without any sense of restriction, um, which I think is what the deep longing is. You know, what the deep longing in all of us is, is to be able to fully offer our full selves in society and be celebrated for that. Be appreciated for that. Um, but to really just be able to love and show our love through creativity and how we treat our families, how we, um, love our, our partners and All of those things just, I mean, really, truly flourishing, um, and flourishing together. Uh, and it's, I, I don't know. I'm, it makes me really excited.

Andrea Ward Berg:

It makes me excited too. It really does. It's interesting because, you know, we've talked about this in previous episodes. Where we went through a massive mutation in 1781. And so if we think about, um, going from seven centers to nine centers, going from being focused on survival and enlightenment to communion and expression, right? The global frequency has not really been set up for communion and expression to thrive.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Right. And so part of that is like a safety mechanism. Like would we self destruct? Possibly. That's true. Like, I mean, you know, you can think of like all these different ways that nature like protects itself, like, and we are a part of those ways. Right. And so, um, I do not want to like deny the benefic oversight of the way things are unfolding, but it isn't lost on me that. We've been kind of pushing up against this, um, this kind of misalignment between our desire to be communal beings that are fully expressing themselves and the program's desire to have us operate a certain way, right? To have us operate as machines. Um, and so that's like about 240 years that that's been going on. When you look at what was happening before the frequency shifted into this frequency, right? Like you're looking at before the transatlantic slave trade, you're looking at, you know, the way that Indigenous tribes were thriving in North and South America and, you know, had really created the two arms of the eagle that could fly. Right. Like talking about masculine and feminine and talking about two spirited people and just so many things that we have known, like as a humanity, we have known how to deal with. Right. And so, um, I just think it's going to be really interesting to see. How this shift impacts our future. And, you know, are we really going to be able to appreciate how precious it is to have a human life, to be human, because it's something I feel like we've really taken for granted in this. That's about a two hundred and forty year period.

Courtney Napier:

That feels very important to meditate on. Like I hope that, I mean, I don't know how many of you take notes while you listen. I know I take notes when I'm listening to Andrea, always. It doesn't even matter if it's just like chilling or whatever. I'm always taking notes, but that's definitely something to really reflect on. It's interesting because we're currently, you know, we're, we're recording this on April 2nd. We are in a mercury retrograde in Aries. And we are, um, also coming up on this incredible solar eclipse, um, in a few days. And, uh, it, at least for my chart, this is happening in the ninth house, and it's really about reflecting on connecting with, with the higher power and a higher, higher ideals, higher frequency, higher energy. And, um, I, I can admit that I do take for granted the, the life that I have as a human being. And it's not so much that like you know, I don't appreciate the life that I have the, like my family and, you know, all those things. It's really more of the, the positioning that I've been given as a human, um, the responsibility that I have in nature in the earth, you know, this is, this is beyond just like my home and my neighborhood. This is about the entire earth and the role that I play in it. And, um, it's, and again, it's not, I mean, it's a little bit of an admonishment. It's like, you know, this is something to kind of put somewhere in the back of my mind to take some time to carve out some time to like offer gratitude and also reflect and meditate on, but it really quickly gives way to a lot of joy and a lot of just awe, you know, to be a part of something, um, to have this consciousness and to be a part of nature as a conscious being.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, somebody that I love who speaks to this, and I was hoping we would come around to this, especially thinking about how Indigenous cultures, you know, and, and depending on where your ancestors are from, you may have to go back further. Like in my particular case, I really have to go back to before the Romans in England, right. And before. Before the Saxons invaded. And right, like there are so many different layers depending on where your ancestors are from. Um, but Lyla June talks about how humans really are here to be a keystone species. Um, she has a phenomenal Ted talk, which we will definitely reference in the show notes, but essentially a keystone species. So if you Google it, it's an organism that helps hold the system together.

Courtney Napier:

Wow.

Andrea Ward Berg:

It is like the being that is making way for the other parts of the system to thrive. So in her Ted talk, she talks about how Um, her ancestors would plant kelp forests to help the specific types of fish that needed that kelp and the otters that needed that kelp to be able to thrive. Or they would take, they would take like different salmon populations, like if a river wasn't thriving or like a river was frozen over and wasn't going to defrost in time, they would take the roe, they would take the salmon eggs, and put them in a river that was thriving. So it's just ways that we have been helping right? And we have then in this global frequency turned that into what's in it for me.

Courtney Napier:

Right. It's true.

Andrea Ward Berg:

But now we have an opportunity to see that there is something in it for us, but there's also something in it for. The planet, there's something in it for the bigger we, if we can really express ourselves as who we are, then to your point about, you know, Gen Z and other ways that we're seeing this already happen, that the whole planet thrives when that happens.

Courtney Napier:

Yes. It's not at the exclusion of, you know, like we, we aren't, we don't reach whatever greatness is, for lack of a better word, at the exclusion of another being, another environment, and of course our planet, um, being at its best, too. And that's something that As human beings, we believe for a long time. And one thing to reflect on for those history buffs out there is a, it's a conservation movement and, um, Teddy Roosevelt and this idea that, that these gorgeous, pristine lands that they were, um, coming, uh, coming into contact with in the Midwest was something that just kind of grew out of the ground that way. And they did not take into account. They were not willing to see that it was the Indigenous people and their, their husbandry, their, love of the earth and how they loved the earth and nurtured their land. And that's why they were beautiful. And that's where they were thriving. It wasn't just some wild, you know, jungle. thing that they were, yeah, coming on. And so, and again, even the jungles of Africa, you know, and, and South America and all these places that we, that the West would treat as, you know, uh, some a place where That was, like you said, uncivilized or it wasn't, or it was just, like you said, happenstance. Nothing was happenstance. Um, and we can be a positive impact not only on each other, but on this planet. We have historical evidence of our capacity to be that and record, not just evidence. So we can go back and remember those things. And then You know, innovate and create new ways and, and, and more and more beneficial ways we have that capacity to do that. And so another thing to really look forward to.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah, it's exciting. It's exciting to be in this place of like closing some harmful cycles and opening up to what can we bring forward and how can we innovate, how can we, how can we bring that individual energy and to show us what what's needed now.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. And how it starts with a, a, a deep radical love of self and love of life that is, it's, it's beautiful. You can't, you can't make this stuff up. It's just so, it's just so phenomenally gorgeous.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Well, I'm excited to be here with you exploring it and with all of our listeners and I'm excited to see what this brought up for them. Yeah. Me too. Thanks for listening. Share with us, find us on Instagram, find us. In Apple podcasts, leave us a review. We love hearing from you. It really, it means the world to us.

Courtney Napier:

It does. It does. All right. Until next time.

Andrea Ward Berg:

'Til next time.

Courtney Napier:

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