HDxLiberation: A Human Design Podcast

Episode 8: Cosmos & Currents, March 2024 Edition

• Courtney Napier, Andrea Ward Berg • Season 1 • Episode 8

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BRIEF SUMMARY OF EPISODE:  

In this reflective and deeply insightful episode, hosts Andrea and Courtney dive into the significance of current events through the lens of Human Design and liberation theology. As they navigate the complexities of the astrological new year, Mercury's shadow, and the spring equinox, the conversation uncovers the collective need for processing, digesting, and healing amidst societal upheaval. This episode, grounded in the authenticity and camaraderie between the hosts, offers a unique perspective on the intersection of the cosmos, Human Design, and the ongoing struggle for liberation and justice. From discussing the controversial ban on TikTok to addressing systemic anti-Blackness and the importance of nervous system regulation, Andrea and Courtney invite listeners into a critical conversation about the power of individual and collective transformation in these turbulent times.


BULLET POINTS OF KEY TOPICS & CHAPTER MARKERS:   

  1. Astrology's Role in Healing and Reflection: The astrological significance of the current period and its implications for processing and healing. [00:01:57]  
  2. Societal Change & Human Design Insight: Reflections on the impact of societal upheaval on the collective psyche and the role of Human Design in navigating these changes. [00:03:00]  
  3. TikTok Ban: Censorship & Democracy at Risk: Critical analysis of the TikTok ban, the role of government censorship, and the implications for free speech and democracy. [00:04:07]  
  4. Fani Willis & Nurturing the Nervous System for Liberation: The importance of nervous system regulation and strategies for achieving greater resilience and capacity for liberation work. [00:26:45]  
  5. Empowerment through Collective Action: A call to action for collective responsibility in dismantling oppressive systems and empowering marginalized voices. [00:39:32]  


RESOURCES & LINKS:  

  1. My Grandmother's Hands by Resmaa Menakem  
  2. Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire 
  3. All the Black Girls Are Activists by ebonyjanice 
  4. HDxLiberation Community on Patreon

Human Design Intro Course Better Human: Use the promo code “HDXL” to get 30% OFF! https://andreawardberg.com/better-human/ 

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Hi, I'm Andrea. Hey y'all, this is Courtney and welcome to the Human Design and Liberation podcast. This is a space where we explore how human design and liberation theology intersect with the past, present, and future. With the intent of sharing the beauty and pain of the human experience to encourage you in your liberation journey.

Courtney Napier:

Hey, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Good. Really good. I'm excited about this, this little new episode we're putting together. Something different.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Something different. I mean, it was always part of the plan, but yes. Um, it wasn't what we were planning on recording to be.

Courtney Napier:

No, it was not. It was not.

Andrea Ward Berg:

And it's probably going to be awesome for that reason. I think so. Um, so Courtney and I thought we would just do what we think of as like a current events episode. Um, where we just like talk about what's going on. Um, this is actually how we got started doing these conversations. We did them on Courtney's Instagram a few times and her invitation for me to come over there and have this conversation is what beget the realization that HDxLiberation podcast needed to exist. So, yes. Yay. So to kind of ground us, let's just talk about this moment in time. So we're recording today on Friday, March 15th, three days before my birthday.

Courtney Napier:

Yay. Also three days before Mercury, uh, gets into its retrograde shadow, correct? And right on the front door of the Spring Equinox.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yes. Yes. So the spring equinox is the astrological new year and it is essentially the moment when we bring all of the energy from last April through to today to a close. So Pisces season is basically the opportunity to digest everything that we have experienced over the last 12 months and, um, process it, understand it before we move into this new cycle.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Um, do you think that's why it's like, one of the reasons why it's just been so heavy

Andrea Ward Berg:

I definitely think that's part of it. I definitely think that's part of it. I think what's really interesting is that, um, there's, there's a lot that is being revealed in this moment, um, and the, you know, energy of the season is all around processing, digesting, and really healing. Or not, right? I think, yes, so many people have their head in the sand and are just like power through power through power through. Don't make any space to heal. And that really, you know, just continues the, the self fulfilling prophecy of. I'm trying to survive. I can't survive. I'm trying to survive. I can't survive.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Yeah. Staying in a delusion. Yeah.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yep. Yeah. This whole topic kind of came up because we were reflecting on just all the things that are happening right now and, how it relates to this moment that we're in. We have Mercury going into its shadow on my birthday, um, on the 18th and then literally a week after that is our first eclipse. Um, and we're already kind of, you know, feeling those shaky vibes. I mean, you have Congress who hasn't been able to do their job for the last year and a half. Yeah. Their job is literally just to pass a budget. Like that's the only thing that is their job and they haven't been able to pass a budget yet. But somehow they're able to come out of nowhere and ban TikTok.

Courtney Napier:

Just join forces across the aisle, like all of this consensus in a matter. I mean, it really feels like a matter of days.

Andrea Ward Berg:

It literally was a matter of days.

Courtney Napier:

Of course, this has been on the table for years, but not in a serious way because it's kind of an unserious issue. And, like, I do understand that there are several sites that are banned in China and other countries that are American. So like Google, all the Meta stuff, X, um, a couple other, social media platforms, American social media platforms are banned in China. And so the argument was that, well, of course America should ban TikTok. But the thing about it is China is a communist nation. Right.

Andrea Ward Berg:

That part.

Courtney Napier:

You know what I mean? And we have, we have a bill of rights that includes free speech. Right. And so I just find it really interesting that is even an argument being made, you know what I mean? Like it's an argument that's actually being made in American media. Um, the, the press being the, the fourth, you know, pillar of this representational democracy that we have, and they are making this argument, like, well, China's banned all of these sites from us, we should do the same. It's like, it's not, they did it because that is of their ethos to do, that is their belief that the government has the right to censor Media right for the benefit of their power for the benefit of the government's power and, and, you know, of course, objectively, according to them for the betterment of the country itself, but for, for the United States to be adopting is very over is very much Overton's window, right? It's very much like This is not a normal conversation for a representative democracy to be having. Right. And the fact that we're trying to normalize this idea of censorship being for the betterment of our country, for whatever reason, is, uh, not good.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. It's not self. It's literal not self. So, what's interesting is, um, Ra talks about this all the time when he's talking about, uh, Rave Psychology, which is, you know, um, the part of Human Design that talks about determination, and digestion, all of these different aspects. Um, but specifically around motivation and personality view, which are kind of the, the ways that we, um, naturally make decisions, why we make them that way, or the perspective that you naturally have on things. My view is a power view. And so when I am in alignment, I can see the power differentials. I can see who's winning, who's losing, what's happening, right? I'm, I'm kind of like a scorekeeper. And what I see happening in this dynamic is you've got authoritarian governments who their values are aligned around that. For right or for wrong, right? We have judgments about it. But at the end of the day, that's for those groups of people to determine. But then we have the not self of our government trying to adopt a value that we don't embody. And so, of course, the reasoning is going to be tin, tinny, it's going to be very thin, it's going to be very superficial. Because when you're in the not self and you're in transference, so basically making decisions from that not self place, the reasoning is not going to be thought out and have a lot of depth to it, right? Right. And so. It's kind of just like a whole, you know, expose. Yes. So then the question is why, why are we in not self? Like what is, what is throwing off our congressional leaders to be in this state of panic that they're not able to pass a budget for 18 months, but they're able to pass a ban on TikTok in three days right. And I really think it gets back to the Pluto in Aquarius themes that yes are prevalent right. TikTok is a very egalitarian system Everybody has an equal voice. They're not, um, creating algorithms to placate the power differential in our government. Right. They're not, uh, creating algorithms, less so anyway, for, you know, big names or, um, keeping current lines. Like they're really disrupting all of that. And so then it feels threatening to the people who are trying to keep those power structures in place.

Courtney Napier:

Right. It's it is. And it's very oriented to young people. I think, you know, in the early, early days of Facebook, it was very, of course, oriented to young people. I think Instagram became that like the young person's like answer to the, to the, you know, to their parents, Facebook, the graying of Facebook over the years. Um, and it really became that. And then Instagram was bought by Facebook into Meta and now it's just a giant commercial is really what it feels like all the time. Yeah. And so kids, you know, young people turn to, and then YouTube is just like, you know what it is, but, and so kids turn to TikTok. And I feel like that's part of the reason why it's so egalitarian is it's very youthful. And it's like a, it's, it's a it's a voice for young people. Um, and it's a place where they can really just interpret the world their way. So they're seeing things that are happening in the world. They're experiencing their own emotions and feelings. They're, um, reacting and responding to the things that we're doing, you know, as millennials and Gen Xers and, and the decision making, uh, class essentially. And. Their reactions to that are actually incredibly powerful. Like one of the first things I thought about was how during the 2020 election, how these young people were organizing on TikTok to reserve spots at Trump rallies. Um, to basically fill them up and then like, no, and not go. And so you have rallies that are like half empty because these young people are, have organized here. So it really became like, it's essentially like there was Black Twitter, which kind of like this Twitter subculture, which organized Black and brown folks. TikTok had its own way of allowing young people to self organize, to self actualize. Um, but I do want to say that TikTok definitely had its dangers. It had its, you know, it had its. Dark alleyways and so forth, like I don't believe. Yeah. Like everything. I don't believe more so than other platforms. And even to that, anybody who paid attention to the Facebook congressional hearings, you were hearing some really, really, really tragic stories about the ways that Instagram and Facebook have harmed people. Young people,

Andrea Ward Berg:

young people. Yeah. And there's a lot of reports that TikTok has done more to reduce harm to young people than any US social media company. So that argument to me doesn't, that doesn't stand.

Courtney Napier:

It doesn't stand. And it also doesn't stand because our government has yet to do anything about Facebook and Instagram. We have yet to, they have yet to organize themselves to sanction Meta. Yeah. But TikTok becomes their gathering point. Yeah. I think it just, again, like the discrepancies on top of discrepancies that are happening.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Inconsistencies. Yeah. Yeah. To me, it smells of anti Blackness.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Say more.

Andrea Ward Berg:

When, when you look at TikTok, it is owned by a non white person. And it is a platform that has really doubled down on this, uh, egalitarian sharing of information. And so both of those parts of it. Now, I mean, Black creators have been very vocal about issues with TikTok, um, and TikTok has made some adjustments and has, really tried to, um, listen to those creators. So I, I don't think they've done enough. I mean, I really don't think from, um, a censoring Black creators, but that's an issue in Meta. That's an issue again. Yes. You know, across the board again, anti Blackness. Um, so we're just looking at like different shades of anti Blackness, right. Um, but. When you look at the populations of the global majority, Black and brown individuals, businesses, et cetera, they face more strict criticism. They often experience greater consequences for things that white organizations are doing and getting away with every day. Right. So I really feel like these sanctions on TikTok are very representative on what our government runs on, which is white.

Courtney Napier:

Yes,

Andrea Ward Berg:

It also, I think, exposes the reason why we haven't been able to make progress as a country is because our values are so misaligned with our actions. Yes. And then the justifications come from anti Blackness, which we are convinced that we don't have. So right. And, and, and what way is the energy going to line up with that conversation? Right. Right. It's not, it's, it's totally conflicted. Like, I don't know how these people sleep at night, honestly. I really don't know how they sleep at night and the evidence in how many Republican house members are retiring or leaving are saying I'm done, right? The conflict has gotten too great. And I, I don't think that. Democrats are far behind them, especially the ones who are not doing this work. Now, there are some who are doing this work and are really taking these moments as an opportunity to galvanize and to dig deeper. Um, but there are many who are not doing this work and, um, they're also going to be called to task because those 170 million users of TikTok, 80 percent of them can vote. You think they're going to vote for you if you voted for them to not be able to express their free speech?

Courtney Napier:

Yes. They're free speech and their businesses. Like you said, I mean, like they're messing with people's pockets and that's, um, again, super fascinating to me. And, just the lack of. Respect that the elite class has towards workers, especially workers who are not using their labor in service of the oppressive class. Like I'm reading Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paolo Freire, and it's completely blowing my mind. And this is one of those places where, um, it's just a, it's a tale of as old as time, the repression of self expression by the oppressor class because the point of the matter is they don't want The oppressed to think, right? And so they find all kinds of ways to literally Um, dissuade and distort and impede our ability to have the information we need to understand our reality. It's essential as an essential part of maintaining their power. And so

Andrea Ward Berg:

I just want to break down because some people might be like, well, like, Why are we automatically categorizing people in Congress as oppressors? So, or of this class, right? And so, and this was a stat that I was kind of astounded at, but it takes many hundreds of thousands of dollars to be able to run for Congress, like even in a district that is not competitive and, um, and, not going to require, let's say the hundreds of millions of dollars that many of these races do require. Um, but in like, In each election cycle, we're talking about many billions of dollars. In 2020, it was nine billion dollars. So, um, When we look at, oh no, sorry, in 2020 it was 17 billion in 2022 it was nine. So, um, you know, 2020 being a presidential election year, that's obviously going to have, you know, a much higher, uh, spend, but even the congressional races in 2020 were 10 billion. Um, and 2022 it was 9 billion. So

Courtney Napier:

10 billion With a B. Yeah. With a B. Good gracious.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. So when we look at the people who are able to run, like not only do they have to have the money to organize and to go through the whole process, they also have to have. the money to not work for however long they're on the campaign trail. So, you know, that's where this understanding of the class that these people who are in office are from.

Courtney Napier:

Yes. Yeah. And I, and I really appreciate that you say that because, um, using something that I am newly adopting more and more into my language, kind of moving away from other ways of identifying like power differential, um, using oppressed and oppressor. Honestly, What I appreciate about this terminology is that it's entirely about your actions and your impact. It's not taking into account where you're from, not necessarily even the color of your skin, not necessarily entirely even, um, your ethnicity, your nationality, your language, none of those things. Um, and, it's also mutable. It's a mutable.

Andrea Ward Berg:

It's a mutable identification. Yeah.

Courtney Napier:

Yes. So I, it's something that you choose every day. I know that one argument against that terminology is that, oh, it's, um. It's disempowering to call some that someone that is like a victim, you're kind of labeling, labeling them as a victim and you're disempowering people by labeling them as the oppressed. But I think, um, what's kind of funny about that is that the intentionality for the oppressor is for the oppressed to never know totally what the impact of these systems are on them and so

Andrea Ward Berg:

if anything, and so of course they don't want you naming it.

Courtney Napier:

Right. Of course you don't want me saying that I'm, I'm the oppressed, you know, I'm a part of the oppressed and, and anyone who identifies themself that way understands and is able to see themselves as a person outside of the, the socioeconomic situation they're experiencing, that they don't deserve that, that that does not define who they are. And so it's like, I'm not, you know, bad at making money. I'm not like, um, it's not that I'm lazy and not working hard enough. It's not that I was born in the wrong side of town or Whatever. It's because I am being actively oppressed by these systems. This is why I'm experiencing a life that is not, um, giving me the opportunity to use my labor for my own betterment and for the betterment of society in general. You know, I have to sell my labor to these other situations. That's oppression. That's what oppression is,

Andrea Ward Berg:

right? And oppression really thrives on, on not differentiating. Yes, exactly. It's like the antithesis of these tools that we're using. And I think that's part of what gives me hope is that as we get closer to 2027, which we are going to do a whole episode on, we were going to do that today. It's coming. It's, it's going to come next week because this yeah, needed precedence. But, um, as you'll see, as we dive into what 2027 is all about these, um, These systems that homogenize, that's the word I was searching for, are not going to hold up anymore. They're not going to have the support from the background frequency anymore. So, um, really getting into practice with using your strategy and authority and noticing where you are being guided. against the current and how you feel taking action for yourself against that current is going to just strengthen your ability to navigate the uncertainty that's going to exist for the next while. I mean, it's just going to be a while. Yes, that

Courtney Napier:

absolutely like really seeing differentiating yourself from the conditioned societal state. Yeah. And also being able to see others as differentiated beings as well. Yeah. And to really respect and embrace and see as a, um, benefit to our society moving forward in a more liberated way.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Um, and also your own individual process. You know what I mean? Like, right. Seeing other people as differentiated, just it, it helps your own process of differentiation. Yeah.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. And I was going to say, but it allows you like allowing that to guide how you relate to other people. Yeah. How do you relate, and every like layer from the family, all the way up to how we're running businesses, organizations, locations and municipalities, all of that, like seeing people as we each have something important to bring to the table, how can we get all these people involved in the way that allows them to bring their deepest gifts to the table for us to alchemize, you know? Um, and so that is, that's the power of, of deconditioning. That's the power of, you know, learning how to be guided by your strategy and authority, which was last week's episode. And, um, kind of the power of this moment really.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Absolutely. Yeah. It's the power of this moment and it does, it does require nervous system capacity. Yes, it does require that. It requires some really deep work around nervous system because the nervous system is where we're holding those patterns. And so when we look at, for example, the nervous system of the elite class, which is mostly Descendants of Western Europeans, mostly white. Then what we see is the amount of oppression, self oppression that is required in order to be able to oppress others the way that we are doing that. And so for those of us that are in this work and really trying to undo these patterns, we really have to tend our nervous system. I go back to this book daily. And if you haven't heard me mention it, um, You're going to hear it again. It's My Grandmother's Hands. Okay. My Grandmother's Hands is like, it is a must have for anybody on their Human Design journey, from my perspective, because if you don't tend to your nervous system, you cannot follow your strategy and authority. Yes, you just can't, which we talked about in the last episode. So really taking the time to do the things that allow you to have more capacity in your nervous system. What is that going to enable you to do? It's going to enable you to speak up when somebody is being harmed in front of you. It's going to enable you to stop when you see someone pulled over who is Black. And you just want to bear witness and make sure that nothing happens to them, right? Like, these are the actions that it's going to take to disrupt these oppressive systems. But even just in those two examples, you can tell how much nervous system capacity is required to be able to do that, right? It's not, it's not something to take lightly. And so, um, like one practice that I have been doing for the last 29 days is, um, I've been really focused on moving my body to close emotional loops to closed stress cycles in my body. Um, and this comes from, um, a book about burnout. I'll find the book and we can put it in the show notes. Um, but you know, healing these anti Black ideas about exercise and the way my body should look and fat phobia and all the things that come from anti Blackness, um, healing that led me to a place where my body wasn't getting what it needed. And so I've had to kind of come back around, loop back around to this understanding of I'm not moving my body to, you know, fit into some outer authority idea of what my body should look like, um, or what it should weigh, or all of these different ways that white supremacy culture has conditioned us to hate our bodies. Um, I love my body and I'm in such a much better place than I was, you know, um, 10 years ago, but, um, it wasn't getting what it needed and it was telling me it was communicating. Um, and part of the way it was communicating was in nervous system capacity. And so, you know, just really giving, giving yourself some space to explore what are some ways that I can improve my nervous system capacity for sure. Google it to start, get My Grandmother's Hands. It is. Everybody should have it. Um, and start doing these practices so that we can be more regulated and Uh, stable in our true self as we're facing this increasingly volatile world we're living in.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Yeah. In order to divest your identity from these systems, yes, you know, I think, um, that's That's a big part of what I see as, um, nervous system regulation is divesting your, your identity from the oppressor's identity and the identity that the oppressor is trying to place on you. Project onto you. Yeah. Yeah. And, and so another thing I wanted to bring up, which this is so good. Um, another thing I want to say is that, um, And this is a beauty of Human Design as well. The, the work that we do to regulate our nervous systems and the work that comes out of our regulated selves is going to look different from person to person. And I think that's just a really important thing to say in a time where we still have the inclination to say that the things that work for us should work for everybody. Yeah. The ways that we show up in the world that what our activism looks like, or our labor looks like, or what our family rearing looks like is something that everyone should do. Not to say that that's not something that you should share because I think sharing your stories is absolutely essential, but I think treating What you are feeling mandated to do or what is working for you as something that is this blanket panacea for everyone is, is that dangerous territory that I know that the changing, um, with Pluto in Aquarius. And 2027, again, is, is pushing us out of like the background frequency of that inclination is being taken away. And so, um, again, it's just one of those things to remember. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because I am reading, um, all the Black girls are activists. Yes. By ebonyjanice yeah. And the whole, it's so, so good. Um, and. It's about Black women's work in, in dreaming, like our radical act is dreaming of who we can be outside of white supremacist systems. Yeah. Um, I mean, I see that that is good for everyone to do, but if we, if we stay inside, like, reality and we stay inside history and see the incredible amount of labor that Black women have put forth, um, as activists. Um, that, I mean, you can just think of, I feel like for a lot of us, surprisingly, and I think we surprise ourselves and you will surprise yourself if you do this, but when you think of activists, just in general, in the United States, a lot of the people that are going to come to mind are going to be Black women and fems, um, which is funny because the, the conversation Never looks like that. But the reality is that we're just so present in the work and that has been a good thing. It's, you know, survival of, it's gotten us here. At the same time, it's not going to get us to the next

Andrea Ward Berg:

place. No. And it comes from a place of deep suffering. If you look at the people who have had to suffer the most, it's Black women. And so, of course, Black women are the majority of activists because they don't want others to have to suffer the way that they have had to suffer. And I think that if we can tend to that, Then all of us will benefit. Right, right.

Courtney Napier:

And, and you know, us showing the world how to do that by pulling back and dreaming and saying no. And, you know, not just choosing our battles, but, and at times not choosing any battles, you know, resigning from the battlefield. That's a powerful statement.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Absolutely. And for the non-Black listeners to allow. The Black women in their life to not have to be the ones, right? Yeah. And really create opportunities to have the conversation about their whole humanity and really what they need to be doing. I mean, I'm very fortunate to work at a workspace. I work at the Lola in Atlanta. It's really centering that conversation. Um, and what I see in with my colleagues, my Black colleagues is that, um, there's some fear of stepping back. There's fear for their own safety if they step back. And so that's the opportunity for us to step in and say, I got you. Um, I'm going to make sure this doesn't happen. I'm going to make sure that I am keeping eyes out for you so that you can let your nervous system rest in a way that you haven't been able to.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Oh yes, absolutely. And it's empowering and it's not, you know, it's all reciprocal. Like I being around an empowered white woman who feels capable to stand up and say something about injustice to be. Um, to avail themselves to the Black women in their lives to be the one to speak up so that the Black woman doesn't have to speak up when there's a microaggression or whatever, not to say that Black women can't speak up for themselves. That's not what I'm saying. But what I am saying is I. I love being in the presence of those white women because those white women are empowered. Those white women, you know what I mean? What I'm trying to emphasize is that like, there is something that will unlock in non Black folks when you make a stand and you, you know what I mean? It's powerful.

Andrea Ward Berg:

It is because it requires It requires an inner stability that is not going to be impacted by the outer instability that standing up creates. Yep. Right. And it also, um, it requires giving yourself the grace that you're asking for whatever system or issue to give to the Black woman. So you, you can't ask for that if you're not giving it to yourself. And so it really, it does require a depth of work to be able to, to be able to step in that way. But I really, truly believe that that is what is going to disrupt these paradigms because you cannot have You know, 75 percent of our country subscribed to anti Blackness and expect the, the rest of the people who are being oppressed to disrupt that. Like if there's not a portion of that class who is willing to do this work to free themselves, then we're never going to get free. Yeah.

Courtney Napier:

It's facts. It just is what it is.

Andrea Ward Berg:

And this brings me full circle because the Black woman that I am most concerned about today is Fannie Willis and I'm pissed off for her. I am honestly, I'm so pissed off for her because I, this is just such a great example of the whiteness in our judicial system. So if you are a white liberal listening to this podcast and you hear abolitionists talk about really needing to tear the whole system down, this is really a great example of why. Because white people have been trying to dictate who Black people can be in romantic relationships with for millennia. Yes. And I am done with it. I'm like, why is nobody talking about that? Like, the fact that the Trump lawyers could even bring this case is Yes. a case of anti Blackness and it's giving slavery. It's giving

Courtney Napier:

Antebellum realness.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Antebellum bullshit. Like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? In 2024, we're putting a Black woman on the stand to defend a romantic relationship. Okay. Can we get the white judge and the white lawyers to confess the number of times that they sold partners away from each other so that they would be Available for rape? Because that's what that was about. So the judge is white, Trump's lawyers are white, Fannie's Black, Fannie's, A, you know, special counsel is also Black, um, yeah. So anti Blackness is showing up in, um, the questioning of Fannie's finances. Um, so it's showing up in the judgment of their relationship. It's showing up in the questioning of their finances. It's showing up in the fact that they're criminalizing their relationship when they didn't break any rules or any laws. And they're not even together anymore. They're not even together anymore. And, um, and, and even though the judge technically ruled in her favor, he's still dictating. Okay. So again, like this is giving antebellum, the white judge power dynamic is saying that now Either she or the special prosecutor have to leave the case in order for them to continue to bring the case forward. And I'm just like, so flabbergasted that this judge would, I mean, he's really showing his Inhumanity. Right. And this decision that he would stoop to this level of like even entertaining what Yeah. Trump lawyers are making up to just really their delay tactics. It's just literally just a delay tactic and a distraction. It's it's using Black relationship as a distraction from white oppression. Yeah. And it's just. Bananas. I'm just like, it is. Are you kidding me? And now everybody's questioning Fannie's integrity when the integrity of our entire legal system, our entire representative democracy is fragile and like, you know, Was almost ruptured.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's baffling. It's baffling for her to win and still lose. Yeah. It's baffling for Trump to lose and still win. You know what I mean? It's, it's baffling that like, that was something that was important enough to the courts to ensure that like, even though Trump was wrong, yeah, he's still going to get something out of it. And even though Fannie Willis was right, she still has to lose something. Yeah. Yeah. That's the part that's like very, um, it's very much, it's very much what this country was built upon. It's very much this, this

Andrea Ward Berg:

giving white master vibes.

Courtney Napier:

Yeah, it is. It is it? Yeah.

Andrea Ward Berg:

And it's just disappointing, honestly. It's just disappointing. Yeah. Um, I fully believe back to all the Black girls are activists. I fully believe in fannie's ability to, um, get this done and Oh girl. Yes. Yeah. With even more fervor than before. Um, yeah. And I also believe in the impeccability of her record, um, and. I just think that this is a really great example for us to have in mind when, when Black women speak up about something, anyone who is not a Black woman needs to be listening. Because the only reason I even have this distinction is because of the Black women that I've been learning from. It's, it's not something that I would be able to discern myself. Um, and also for the Black women and men who are listening, your efforts are not in vain and you don't have to subscribe to white supremacy delusion for you to be able to survive. I truly believe that. You being a part of this conversation and learning your Human Design and soothing your nervous system is going to help get us back into balance because when you feel safe enough to release these labels and expectations, then it's going to bump all of us non Black participants up against our responsibility to be at the table and advocating and taking the weight off, you know,

Courtney Napier:

yeah, no, I fully, fully, fully agree. I feel like, you know, I, I see, I already see, I already see Black women, fems, Black trans folks. Um, and, and Black men seeing the Black boy joy trend and seeing how men are like finding all these gorgeous ways to, um, express the spectrum of emotions that all people hold that the majority of human beings hold, but Black men have been, um, again, white supremacist delusion has, uh, projected a restriction to how they're able to show up emotionally in the world. And misogyny, all of that. But like, I see us leading the way in, um, tossing off those, for lack of a better word, mental, emotional chains, you know, um, and reclaiming Our freedom is Tony Morrison says it's one thing to get free. It's another thing to, um, essentially take hold of that freedom. I'm paraphrasing, but to like, to really embody the freedom that we have. And, um, This idea of liberating our minds and liberating our emotions and in many ways liberating our nervous systems, I think, might be a cool way of addressing it. Yeah. The burdens that have been placed upon it by our society is a critical step. It's a, it's a critical step to see from the outside. And then it's a critical step to, to undergo, um, for every individual and to embody. But, um, yeah, it's like a, each one teach one, like as you going through that liberating, um, regulating healing process. And doing it in a way that's without shame and therefore, as it is, as you are moved to, to do it in public, you know, whatever that looks like, I'm not saying you have to like live stream your life, but like, but approaching it in a way that like, this is something that all human beings go through and it's something that is very important to find ways to show Your growth. Yeah, you know, show your process. Um, that the impact of that is, um, has already been a very important, powerful movement in its own right and will continue to be so. For everybody, you know, it, it, there is, there, there are deep roots in the Black community of this work. Obviously, like reading ebonyjanice's work, she sees this as like the fourth wave of feminism, Black feminism. Um, so there is the movement and it very much is deeply rooted in the Black community, but it's something that is available to everyone. And as, as we get on board and choose this liberated, regulated Life that rejects the labels and and the oppression that is being foisted upon us. Yeah. That turns the tide, you know? A free mind is very powerful.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yeah. And that's what we're all about.

Courtney Napier:

Mm hmm. That's why we're here. That's why me and Andrea are even here. This is what we, we are. adding our voices to this, this work.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Yes. And I'm so grateful to be here. Me too. Thank you to everybody who listened in and Um, now more than ever chime in and ask questions and share. We want to hear how this is supporting you and, um, what else we should talk about. Yeah.

Courtney Napier:

All right, y'all have a great week until next time.

Andrea Ward Berg:

Until next time.

Courtney Napier:

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